Why Most DRONE HOBBYISTS are FLYING ILLEGALLY According to the FAA – The Rules

If you post your HOBBYIST DRONE FLIGHT pics to YOUTUBE, FACEBOOK OR INSTAGRAM, Etc., you are likely doing it ILLEGALLY according to the FAA. I had a conversation directly with the FAA outreach center to get a specific definition so we all know what the rules are. I almost decided not to post this because as the FAA defines it, it is much more rigid than I even thought and I expect the hateful comments will commence. I’m just trying to educate so we can all enjoy the hobby because we know what we are doing is the right, safe, and legal thing so accept this in the spirit in which it is offered. I think there is still a lot of room for hobbyist drone flights but with the awesome cameras available on most it is a shame that to do anything with the pics or video it requires a “part 107 advanced certificate”, as the FAA calls it. I know most won’t bother to read this section before posting the likely seething hate, but keep in mind I’m the messenger, not the originator of the information. Also, as the author of the channel I can simply delete comments that are out of bounds, so let’s help each other out instead of making me the censorship police. Please. I DO want your thoughts though, so don’t take my plea as anything other than to keep it clean and thoughtful…

*** As always I’ll continue to share the nuances as I find them but PLEASE LEAVE ME YOUR COMMENTS as well, I learn a lot from you too! Good Flying!

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00:00 Introduction
1:07 Pilot Classifications
2:01 Start of Conversation w/FAA
2:25 Part 107 Only If Making Money?
4:40 Furtherance of a Business
8:46 FAA Here to Help
10:21 Drones are just a toy
12:19 Knowledge Promotes Safe Piloting
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50 Comments

  1. Willie Botha on March 22, 2021 at 12:33 am

    So there are a lot of criminals out there? Looks if these organisation are creating bad people?? If a bird, one of your pigeons, happen to fly into a plane, will you be liable for that incident and be prosecuted?

  2. Wayne O on March 22, 2021 at 12:33 am

    I just purchased.a FIMI SE 2020.I just wanted a new hobby. With this remote ID thing, will I have to buy another drone, or will this drone comply? I’d rather send it back and wait if that is the case. Thanks for your great videos and knowledge.

  3. Adventures Northwest on March 22, 2021 at 12:34 am

    I understand that there are irresponsible drone pilots and enthusiasts but the FAA definitions seem like extreme overreach. Baseballs, soccer balls, footballs and basketballs also do damage when engaged in recreational activity. This may sound like a silly analogy but we cannot protect everyone from every perceived harm in daily life.

  4. Bradley Harrington on March 22, 2021 at 12:35 am

    And so you can post on Facebook and YouTube. If your not a business or trying to promote a business then ? Like I’ve been filming wildlife around my property lately. And sharing it with friends. But Facebook limits the quality so I started uploading on YouTube and linking it .

  5. William Daugherty on March 22, 2021 at 12:40 am

    US History is filled with federal employees making claims about regulation that do not hold up under scrutiny. Much of what this rep claims is nonsense. Intent has nothing to do with commercial vs. recreational. And certainly intending to promote one’s non-monetized social media profile can (and usually is) recreational. The court cases are what really matters.

  6. syousef on March 22, 2021 at 12:42 am

    So is the US going to regulate ball sports and require registration too? Drones aren’t the only things that can knock a pair of glasses off someone’s head. Literally driving hobbyists into the shadows. They’re fine if they don’t share their footage, but the moment they do try to tell others how much fun it is, they’re commercial. Utterly disingenuous.

  7. michael wells on March 22, 2021 at 12:44 am

    God with all the bs for drones how long till you need a drivers license for a bicycle

  8. Willie Botha on March 22, 2021 at 12:44 am

    So we must realize now that theirs no more hobby drone flying! Dont invest in drones. Licence cost between 20,000 and 30,000 Rands. Get yourself a kite and put a camera on it! HaHa~~!!

  9. Village Idiot on March 22, 2021 at 12:46 am

    I’ve been flying models for decades and the FAA has never needed to interfere. Now all my planes are classified as drones and require all these damned rules.

  10. JH1200A1 on March 22, 2021 at 12:46 am

    First, I would like to say thanks for providing us with this useful information. It really is helpful to know the right way.
    The government is trying to detour the use of drones all together. Otherwise, it wouldn’t be the way it is. It should be way more simple. They are trying to take our freedom. I think EVERY drone owner should have a license and be trained in order to pilot the drone safely. Sort of like a PWC or boaters license. An inexpensive training session that expires every 5 years. But, that does not stop Stupid. Flying near airports and buildings is not acceptable. Taking away our firearms will not fix that problem either. It seems that all government organizations have the same mentality.

  11. Jason Hurdlow on March 22, 2021 at 12:49 am

    Yeah, cuz ‘intent’ makes the flight safe or not safe… fun is safe… garnering attention (profitable or not) is not?!?

    What if we extended this to other things. Skiing maybe:
    So sir, are you skiing for fun today, or to get the ladies to notice you and think you’re cool?
    The latter you say? Ok, I’m going to need you to take this test and get a license then….

    Egregious government overreach at it’s finest!

  12. Nonerequired on March 22, 2021 at 12:50 am

    I laugh at the FAA "representative’s" concepts. He needs to go back and look up the legal meaning of the terms he uses. What a joke. His opinion means nothing. The regulations have the meaning in them, he needs to go back and read them.

  13. PoppaClutch on March 22, 2021 at 12:51 am

    he was able to elaborate so much on the “making money” factor and not so much a “safety” factor. bottom line, if it ends up making money it is illegal and needs to be taxed and fined. murica.

  14. Henry Zabel on March 22, 2021 at 12:51 am

    Informative , thanks . It is amazing how many places you can not fly . Most Federal and State parks along with many city and county parks . As a rookie drone pilot I was going to be flying my drone " out in the sticks" and I checked the no fly zone for the area and found many restrictions . Where I live there is a lot of private air traffic and I never fly above 300′ because many small planes drop below their 500′ minimum to show people their house on the lake two blocks away . I am amazed that to take the 107 license we are required to have a license and ultra lites do not . I am not an expert , but a sub 240 pound (?) ultra lite could cause a tiny bit more damage than a drone . Am I correct ? Also could you clear up something I think many people misunderstand . Operate your drone in visual flight distance . Not that you can see from your screen . Am I correct ?

  15. vinainor on March 22, 2021 at 12:53 am

    Thank you for making this video. But just to be sure, if I’m uploading drone videos to YouTube for private use only (not categorized as public video so that I can share it with immediate family members only) that will still be considered a hobby, right? I don’t intend to, nor do I want to, share them publicly. The videos will NOT show up in any YouTube searches or recommendations based on how it is categorized on YouTube (i.e unlisted).

  16. X on March 22, 2021 at 12:53 am

    THE DRONE COMMUNITY needs to start a CLASS-ACTION lawsuit against the faa! FIGHT THE POWER!

  17. X on March 22, 2021 at 12:53 am

    @7:40 FAA, TAKE ME TO COURT AND PROVE the INTENT OF MY FLIGHT, LMFAO! this guy on the phone is wayyyyyyyyyyy out of bounds! I’ll say it again, let’s TAKE it TO COURT!

  18. Mainly Digger’s Adventures on March 22, 2021 at 12:54 am

    Thank you for sharing!

  19. rsh1967 on March 22, 2021 at 12:54 am

    We need to have a lawyer review this discussion and the regulation itself and explain this… Personally I believe he is over stretching application of the regs

  20. Drones 863 on March 22, 2021 at 12:55 am

    My videos do not make money it is art which is protected by the constitution

  21. the Trash Man on March 22, 2021 at 12:55 am

    That anecdote about the guy and the “dollar store drone” was laughable. Would he have preferred to get hit in the face with a baseball? Would that have been more wholesome than getting hit with an evil drone? LOL

  22. Kevin Loughin on March 22, 2021 at 12:56 am

    Here’s a question I haven’t found an answer to.
    Flying inside. Inside the house, inside a gym, inside a large building. I should be able to do that and post videos on a monatized channel all I want right? The FAA can’t possibly have authority over airspace inside my house, right?

  23. Rick Hobson on March 22, 2021 at 12:56 am

    So… if I put a GoPro on my stringed kite and post the resulting video on social media, am I flying under 107?

  24. TurboNorm on March 22, 2021 at 12:57 am

    Keith, I’m brand new to this thing (Mini2 Christmas gift) but I would have liked you to play more of an antagonist role with the FAA rep. I’m also interested in what case law says. That would really tell us how the courts are interpreting the law, versus FAA employees. Like one commenter said about the IRS employee guidance. The legal precedent is king. Thanks for the channel and loads of information.

  25. Ryan Nakamura on March 22, 2021 at 12:58 am

    Is the 107 valid if you travel overseas? Do you need a license for every country you visit. A million drone shots of world travelers.

  26. T.S. Thomas on March 22, 2021 at 12:58 am

    I’m also pretty amazed that the FAA was contacted by someone hurt by a kid’s toy. Not doubting the injury mind you. But if a kid hits me with his bicycle, do I go crying to the NTSB? This guy ACTUALLY used that as an example? His FAA office DIDN’T tell the guy that that’s not the kind of drone issues that they’re created for? Pretty bad. All the “We’re here to support you” garbage rings hollow.

  27. Desert Golfer on March 22, 2021 at 1:01 am

    Wow! This is definitely very helpful. .. but I agree with most of the comments, there is still some gray areas and they could easily add clarification on these rules just to avoid any confusion. There is lots of people like us who want to do it right, but these gray areas just keep making us confused.. but, lets just get our 107 and do the best we can 👍🏼

  28. Four Nine Bloodline on March 22, 2021 at 1:02 am

    Jesus fucking christ this dude works for the FAA.. he makes no sense..

  29. Willie Botha on March 22, 2021 at 1:04 am

    If I fly but do not display video, I am still safe. I do not need 107? Would having a 107 will let you off when you hurt someone? What is the difference.?

  30. Willie Botha on March 22, 2021 at 1:05 am

    How safe are you going to fly with your 107 when something went wrong with your drone and it fall from the sky and hit someone. What will the difference be when you dont have a 107????

  31. john needy on March 22, 2021 at 1:05 am

    So anyway we,you look at it THEY CAN SAY WHAT EVERY BENFITS THEM ,JUST ABOUT EVERY "DRONE"i found has a Camera on it ,so in other words we all have a problem, ONLY THE ALL MIGHTY DOLLAR WILL TAKE CARE OF IT ,MONEY TALKS ,PERIOD.

  32. Randy McNeely on March 22, 2021 at 1:09 am

    SO, if my kite has a camera that "captures" a video, have I broken the law according to this bureaucrat?

  33. Steve Chatterton on March 22, 2021 at 1:09 am

    Baseballs in flight. Can’t wait for the FAA to regulate them……

  34. vtalen on March 22, 2021 at 1:10 am

    Disappointing

  35. DaveIn NH on March 22, 2021 at 1:10 am

    The goal of the FAA is to clear the airspace for their corporate masters and make sure the average person won’t be able to put a kite in the air.

  36. T.S. Thomas on March 22, 2021 at 1:12 am

    Thanks for the video. Fine job as usual. 99.9% of my drone videos, I’m just flying around, taking videos of the kids, landscape and scenery, and I consider it a pain to post on YT. I have posted some of my new home construction there so my parents can see how it’s coming along. But here comes the FAA assuming I’m actually an illegal part 103 operation, for no apparent reason. Kind of offensive actually. Maybe I should tell them I “Identify” as a hobbyist!

  37. Bradley Harrington on March 22, 2021 at 1:13 am

    They need to make the 107 not so crazy difficult so more operators would take it . But I think they want to make it difficult to squash us using their airspace.

  38. John Baldwin on March 22, 2021 at 1:16 am

    Are you offering training for part 107?

  39. morpheus One on March 22, 2021 at 1:16 am

    It’s all about oppression, the good old give us money first and you can make money, gone are the days of kids with lemonade stands, that’s illegal without a traders licence. Messed up world

  40. 乇volve Outdoors on March 22, 2021 at 1:16 am

    He said it wasn’y about monitary, but intent…. Okay, every time you shoot a video don’t intend to sell it before you sell it.

  41. Le-Jay Robinson on March 22, 2021 at 1:17 am

    I really like this – this is a controversial topic for all drone operators and most content creators are yet to include the FAA in the convo like you have to clarify things and clear up misconceptions.

  42. thermalman on March 22, 2021 at 1:18 am

    Jeez, all these clear as pea soup rules. Should just get a real airplane.

  43. Boba on March 22, 2021 at 1:25 am

    These laws are confusing bullshit. It is intentional.

  44. Mr Bear Lee There - BearRon on March 22, 2021 at 1:26 am

    Thanks very much for this video.

  45. Michael Wilson on March 22, 2021 at 1:28 am

    I’m not a terrorist and I’m tired of big brother faa or the govt telling me how to b free.I don’t do airports or major cities but if u can’t trespass my eyes from public stfu

  46. Theodore Watson on March 22, 2021 at 1:28 am

    So am I good if I put a "recreational use only" disclaimer in my instagram profile?

  47. Dennis DiPasquale on March 22, 2021 at 1:29 am

    Predicated on the assumption that all social media folks are looking to actively grow their social media following. Like saying I’m a professional photographer because I like taking pics and putting them online for friends to see. Kinda flimsy, but I can see the motivation to move people to a 107 license if they fly a lot.

  48. gblan on March 22, 2021 at 1:30 am

    Face it guys, the FAA HATES drones and is intent on getting rid of them. This crap verbal gymnastics they use to essentially lump everyone into being a 107 flyer is a perfect example. Your initial description of the difference between a hobbyist and a 107 pilot is 100% spot on and those FAA morons know it.

  49. Jose Arrom on March 22, 2021 at 1:30 am

    I think we need clarifying legislation. The focus should be on safety and air traffic management, not on uses or stiffling artistic communication and technological innovation. Talk to your congresspersons or senators or the Secretary of Transportation.

  50. Willie Botha on March 22, 2021 at 1:31 am

    It seems that when you dont have a camera, that you can fly a drone as a hobby. Looks like safety are not really the issue, the flying with camera is!!

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