1. suskky on April 25, 2021 at 1:38 am


  2. Ryk Comerford on April 25, 2021 at 1:42 am

    No, I didn’t mean the Vietnam War, check your history. I was referring to his service during World War 2, before he was Kennedy’s Defense Secretary.

  3. MiranUT on April 25, 2021 at 1:42 am

    I tend to go with the principle of "what if other countries did it to us?" If we don’t want that done, then we shouldn’t be doing it. The US military used to use this approach in regards to torture. Many still want to. It seems the US has lost its moral compass.

    BTE Ryk, you might want to check your history. Bob McNamara was defense secretary long after WW2 ended. You mean the Vietnam war. And yes, US actions in that war were immoral, which is why when people heard about it they protested.

  4. suskky on April 25, 2021 at 1:42 am


  5. Alpinex105 on April 25, 2021 at 1:44 am

    Fear Islam? Because Islam is responsible for the killings? The issue is much more complex. What are their motives? The 9/11 commission report points to several political issues. 1) Israel-Palestine conflict, American militaristic support 2) American intervention in Saudi Arabia. Religion is the surface issue. It’s a very simplistic answer. There is a debate about centering around suicide bombings, but how does it relate to drone attacks? We could discuss these issues if you would like.

  6. MiranUT on April 25, 2021 at 1:49 am

    Actually, the bombing of cities in Germany (and London and Tokyo) is considered to be immoral in "just war theory". The A-Bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki were immoral. Most of the international laws were created based on the things that the enemies (in WW2) did that the allies didn’t do.

    Most of the drone bombings are done by the CIA (not the military). I noticed that they did not bring up the targeted killings that Israel has done longer than the USA has used drones.

  7. Ryk Comerford on April 25, 2021 at 1:54 am

    So somebody created "just war theory" and labeled what they did immoral. That doesn’t change the fact that they intentionally bombed civilians,and suffered no consequences in the real world.Robert McNamara,Kennedy’s Defense Secretary, helped plan Allied bombing of Germany,he said in an interview that if we lost,he knew he would be prosecuted as a war criminal.I’m not saying it’s right or wrong,maybe it helped us win, just pointing out that that’s what happened.

  8. suskky on April 25, 2021 at 1:54 am

    Cowards machines……………Americans have become cowards and obeast.
    Must remember- a brave man dies once and a coward dies every day of his life.

  9. MiranUT on April 25, 2021 at 1:55 am

    Easily: You can not target civilians in war. As was mentioned, "surgical bombing" is a myth. The US should not be involved in insurgencies or civil wars in foreign countries.

    Basically, the US has decided to combine military actions and police actions to various degrees where ever and whenever they feel like doing so. This is a dangerous precedent.

    When they start using drone killings domestically in the drug war, you’ll understand why it is morally reprehensible now.

  10. Muskoka Man on April 25, 2021 at 1:56 am

    Mama Mia! Sei così pieno di odio per una razza di persone perché sono male informati? O sei solo un ignorante Wop Dego che è giù sulla sua fortuna? Quale è la testa Cannole?

  11. suskky on April 25, 2021 at 1:56 am

    Sorry I made a mistake 5 out of 6 are Jewish.

  12. Alpinex105 on April 25, 2021 at 1:59 am

    Busses loaded with innocent people – you acknowledge the issue of morality on their part, but what about ours? What about the hundreds of civilian deaths from the use of drones. Women, children, husbands ect. How does that fit into the Christian narrative? If anything, the Bible teaches us that these acts of war are completely wrong. Terroristic. So, are you a true believer?

  13. tommy2hats on April 25, 2021 at 2:01 am

    The Bureau for Investigative Journalism is a joke and its estimates are highly dubious and politically motivated.

  14. suskky on April 25, 2021 at 2:04 am

    Funny how most of these people on this panel are Jews 4 out of 5 ? Does this make you people think who is behind world warmangoring?

  15. suskky on April 25, 2021 at 2:04 am


  16. tommy2hats on April 25, 2021 at 2:05 am

    Wow, what a repugnant racist you are.

  17. Ryk Comerford on April 25, 2021 at 2:08 am

    The Young Turks channel read an article that claimed drones were used against civilian funerals, assuming that Taliban would be at the funeral. While collateral damage is unpleasant, the Taliban is a deserving target. In WW2, nobody cared about German civilian casualties from Allied bombing.I wonder if those against drones would argue we shouldn’t have bombed the Nazis, also. Kind of doubt it.

  18. I Insult The Prophet on April 25, 2021 at 2:08 am

    2160 terrorists killed, 67 civilians killed in a recent Al-Jazeera (no friend of the U.S.) report – But wait! The left-wing radical nutjobs (they can usually be found at the daily beast, daily kos, slate, etc.) are giving us all kinds of numbers like "50 civilians for every terrorist killed" (or anything else they choose to pull out of their ass). The truth is that while our enemies are planning the next big, indiscriminate attack on American civilians, our wonderful drones are killing terrorists with astonishing precision. We need WAY MORE of them in the sky and LESS boots on the ground. Ladies and gentleman, it’s obvious to any thinking American that these beautiful machines are saving countless lives. Islam is the disease and drones are the cure.

  19. FunkMan53 on April 25, 2021 at 2:10 am

    Government shills.

  20. apagoogoo on April 25, 2021 at 2:11 am

    the american weapons industry ackowledges that americans are tiring of the psychological, monetary and human costs of war. drones are a hedge against that fatigue that enables the industry to continue to thrive.

  21. MiranUT on April 25, 2021 at 2:14 am

    Uhmmm. Then why did God kill some many people? I guess this is where US hypocrisy comes from: We can do it but if someone else does it, it’s wrong.

  22. Muskoka Man on April 25, 2021 at 2:17 am

    My question Steve is there such a thing as "moral warfare"? These drones are being used, albeit in a different capacity on the public. I cite the recent marijuana bust in south western Ontario as evidence of that. So my question is what’s next? To whom shall be the hand of vengeance be allotted too? Love your show Mr. Paikin, insightful, informative & well researched! I do hope you interview Rocco Rossi again maybe after he has climbed Everest, fantastic man & very clever!

  23. Andrew Heard on April 25, 2021 at 2:17 am

    A great discussion about the moral implications of some acts of war. Personally I would prefer there wasn’t war, but at least some people are asking the questions.

  24. Alpinex105 on April 25, 2021 at 2:18 am

    Why categorize it as left? Let’s look at the arguments of drone bombers. That is the issue being presented. The whole left vs right affiliation only blocks the critical thinking process. It forces you to think within a certain paradigm. Lets stay away from that.

  25. a on April 25, 2021 at 2:19 am

    Can anyone tell me what the white flower lapel pin Janice Stein is wearing signifies? I’ve seen other people wearing them.

  26. TheFlameoftheWest on April 25, 2021 at 2:20 am

    That was a was a good debate.

  27. deepdragon2 on April 25, 2021 at 2:21 am

    Moral concerns for "drone warfare" what a crock of shit. Killing is killing IS KILLING…. do it or do not do it.
    If your going to kill the enemy then you DO IT and if we do not have to use our children to do this then even better.  Morality, you people really are educated IDIOTS.

  28. MrTrancelotics on April 25, 2021 at 2:21 am

    You’re an idiot. Worst, you’re an anti-Semite. Go and crawl back to your basement.

  29. Muskoka Man on April 25, 2021 at 2:22 am

    Freedom of speech doesn’t extend to baseless hate speech without credible sourcing, something you haven;’t got! Nor did you employ in any of your ramblings about how you think Jews are responsible for the modern political scene. Next time do your homework & don’t get duped by rhetoric!

  30. MiranUT on April 25, 2021 at 2:24 am

    No one person created Just war theory. It has evolved out of philosophical and religious traditions, and yes, what was practiced. Unfortunately, the US and other counties have overstepped the bounds of the principles of just war. This is why it is important to question how the drones are being used and to keep track of how many civilians are being killed – which the US military says it’s not doing anymore.

  31. Beric Tzepeshku on April 25, 2021 at 2:31 am

    john stewart put it best when he said you can’t go around waging war on the whole world because ten people are plotting destruction in a basement. the war on terror is a cruel joke

  32. MiranUT on April 25, 2021 at 2:36 am

    The are actually moral rules or principles of war and warfare. It there weren’t once a war started, it would continue until everyone was dead. Protecting civilians is an important principle (even if a soldier has to put himself at risk to save enemy civilians), which has been overlooked more and more during the past 100 years or so. For more, read Michael Walzer’s "Just War".

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