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4:42 – Today’s question from Dave
6:02 – Paul’s efforts to reach out to NPS
10:03 – Answer to Dave’s question
11:48 – Taking off/landing outside of a national park

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  1. Albertthegreat2010 on October 29, 2020 at 1:05 pm

    those are some big ass mics yo!

  2. Robert w S on October 29, 2020 at 1:08 pm

    They should get their heads out of their ass. If we are licensed 107 we have spent money and time getting licensed. We’re not lawbreakers and using excuses like I did not know. They for sure could and should change the law. It would generate more money. It could cause other pilots to get licensed so they could qualify for a drone flying mission in fed parks. Damn, they could even have us attach a GPS tracker to our the drone to make sure we flew only where we were allowed. When we check out we turn the tracker back in. They check the tracker then give back the deposit for the GPS tracker.

  3. Jake Colbert on October 29, 2020 at 1:09 pm

    I didn’t appreciate his snide remark about Obamacare… As a legal adviser that specializes in healthcare laws the ACA was actually VERY successful and vast majority of people insulting it have no clue what they are talking about. Much of the issues they have with the healthcare system has nothing to do with the ACA.

  4. Mobius-1 on October 29, 2020 at 1:12 pm

    My god get to the point I give up

  5. Daryl Steck on October 29, 2020 at 1:12 pm

    Has anyone flown over Monument Valley?

  6. Where's Barry on October 29, 2020 at 1:13 pm

    Did you ever get that permit?

  7. Jeremy Carey on October 29, 2020 at 1:13 pm

    You are wrong on the barrier to entry. You can get atv for less than $1000 used.

  8. RR on October 29, 2020 at 1:13 pm

    Sad that you didn’t actually answer the question you highlighted.

  9. basspig on October 29, 2020 at 1:13 pm

    America: Land of the Used to be Free. One of the reasons why I’m moving to Japan. I’m tired of being arrested for photography.

  10. Hawaii Aerial Visions LLC on October 29, 2020 at 1:14 pm

    They can also taze you. Re Volcanoes National Park here in Hawaii.

  11. Hardxcore Geekin' It w/ Major G on October 29, 2020 at 1:14 pm

    Lake Powell & Horseshoe Bend aren’t in national parks – they’re in national monuments/recreation areas

  12. My Flying Eyes * on October 29, 2020 at 1:15 pm

    At least for Part 107 holders they should allow certain areas, ask for a fee which would cover insurance, limit the number of permits per day and let us do our thing. National Parks are big enough and have room for all of us. Stupidity is keeping us from enjoying and them from making some extra money.

  13. jim miller on October 29, 2020 at 1:16 pm

    they just want the money

  14. Tom Mary LeoneJarvis on October 29, 2020 at 1:19 pm

    I live in the middle of Cherokee National Forest. We have a 200 Acre community in the middle of Cherokee National Forest, Am I ok to fly on my own property here?

  15. Edward Chamberlain on October 29, 2020 at 1:19 pm

    Okay, but what if I’m not using film anymore. I haven’t used film, or shot any "footage" for a really long time.

  16. Nina Marie on October 29, 2020 at 1:20 pm

    If a state park says drones are ‘prohibited’, but the law only says national parks are prohibited, are we technically allowed to film?

  17. Hawaii Aerial Visions LLC on October 29, 2020 at 1:22 pm

    Wrong. “Operatng” so no you as the operator cannot be in the park.

  18. stephanie zdanis on October 29, 2020 at 1:22 pm

    Informative but cut to the chase !

  19. Christian Thonhauser on October 29, 2020 at 1:23 pm

    Hallo Drone fans. Firtst off all. I am from Austria and believe me, we do have stronger permissions to fly drones, as in US. I checked out all rules for the countries of interest, as well US, why I had seen your video. Round about in 3 years, I will visit Utah, Arizona and California after round 15 years again. I use a DJI mavic air, where the map anyhow will not allow me to fly in these zones, but I am very interested to make short non-commercial shots for my big filming hobby. Therefore I listened carefully your video and hope, there is a chance to get permissions to fly in dedicated areas. I had a training certificate for drones up to 2kg ( 4 lb) and hope this will help to can fly in respect to animals and other person, who like to enjoy, like myself, the silence of the nature. So please let me know, what I can do in this case. Still I have enough time to organise.

  20. D Hansel on October 29, 2020 at 1:23 pm

    There needs to be an organization like the ham radio operators have (ARRL) to stand up for the drone operators and not let every cat and mouse city ordinance make rules up as they go.

  21. Mitsul Kacharia on October 29, 2020 at 1:24 pm

    I am sorry if this has been already covered, but I feel people who run national/state/city parks or cops are not fully aware of Drone laws and I feel nervous that if a cop/ranger catches me even while flying in a legal fly zone, I might have to go through unnecessary legal hassle.

  22. SebastianAsian on October 29, 2020 at 1:24 pm

    Politicians don’t have any incentives to change the law? Drone market is dominated by Chinese. Why would they want to help their sales? Obviously we know why they support gun & ammo companies.

  23. nightweb11 on October 29, 2020 at 1:25 pm

    What does the Part 107 waiver & authorization do? I am just getting into drones and my house is closer then 5 miles from airport. My question is do I need to call the atc everytime I fly it will learning to fly it or is the waiver something to look into?

  24. Williams Cinematics on October 29, 2020 at 1:25 pm

    You should write you congressman about this

  25. SuperbHolidays on October 29, 2020 at 1:25 pm

    The RC could be classed as a part of the system ie, RPAS. Remote pilot aircraft systems ?

  26. then benagcz on October 29, 2020 at 1:28 pm

    You pay federal tax for thouse parks and you can’t film it from the air ??

  27. v12tommy on October 29, 2020 at 1:28 pm

    And yet Democrats always seem to want more government.

  28. Charles Henderson on October 29, 2020 at 1:29 pm

    Thanks guys!!

  29. RDS Photography on October 29, 2020 at 1:29 pm

    I understand the desire of American citizens to escape humanity, noise and buzzing drones when they visit National Parks. On the other hand, drone pilots pay taxes that fund the National Park System. I’d like to see a lobby for changing the rules/laws so that drone flight is legal at least one day a week so long as the pilot honors other basic safety flight rules such as maintaining VLOS, staying under 400’ and not flying over people (and animals).

  30. drew baum on October 29, 2020 at 1:29 pm

    “Drones might scare the animals” said a park ranger to me at Grand Teton NP. We took off from the lower saddle of the Grand and a park ranger happened to see/hear it down below… she waited for us to come down and took our SD cards (we handed her different ones🤪) but she was super cool and let us keep our drone and equipment. She followed us the few miles back to lupine meadows trailhead and told us to leave and not to come back with drones…

  31. timtrottproductions on October 29, 2020 at 1:29 pm

    FAR/AIM 136.31?

  32. Jari Sipilainen on October 29, 2020 at 1:29 pm

    with money

  33. Aaron Hausken on October 29, 2020 at 1:33 pm

    how is a dirtbike "dirtier" when they burn a lot less fuel, than your car you drove out there besides most of the time it’s only allowed on fire roads and national forest roads, and designated trails that are usually shared with hikers and equestrian users usually where there is some mining or forestry activities. there are very few "open" areas outside of playa, vast areas of desert or sand dunes, i have rode my dirtbike a lot of legal places around the country, i spent a summer driving around 44 states and visited a lot of public lands federal and state, with my bike in the back of the truck. long story short it’s just not good to pit any user against another user of public lands. sure there are bad apples in every bunch, just as you stated in this video about illegal drone activities taking place, I’ve packed out hikers trash before on my bike, just don’t judge on that one dude. you don’t know the appreciation riders have. are you humping a chain saw to clear public trails voluntarily on your own dime with your local club after winter before the season gets rolling? sorry man don’t mean to come off as sounding mean. there are a lot in the dirtbike crowd that do a lot more than you think. hey man, if i seen you out on the trail and you got hurt somehow i’d help and if i couldn’t i would leave you my food and water and ride fast as hell to get help.

  34. Michael Phillips on October 29, 2020 at 1:35 pm

    property owners do not own the sky!

  35. Glenn Lopez on October 29, 2020 at 1:35 pm

    "To create change, you must create crisis"… how come they haven’t changed gun laws in America then? * confused face * drones don’t crash into people, people crash into people.

  36. Mel on October 29, 2020 at 1:36 pm

    What about zion could I fly there

  37. peter smith on October 29, 2020 at 1:39 pm

    Tbh, it’s all bull…model helicopters and aircraft have been around forever, not needing faa registration. Quads are far safer, and more advanced with obstacle avoidance, but cos they have cameras, theyre illegal? Aerial vehicle my ass. It’s a palm sized model toy basically, that you hear from 500 feet away. If you are hit by one, you should have heard it coming and avoid it. I’d fine pilots who crash into people, but all these small print restrictions are ridiculous. They don’t want you to,take and sell pictures from nail.parks, not realizing it’s basically perfect advertising for them, to promote people to go explore the beauty of the parks. He also made a good point about atvs ruining the land. Drones,do no harm.

  38. col loc on October 29, 2020 at 1:40 pm

    Model aircraft are NOT purposely made to take aerial pictures, but drones are. There is a clear difference between model planes & drones.

  39. Yongtao You on October 29, 2020 at 1:42 pm

    Not just national parks, state and city parks as well! At least where I live (Seattle, WA).

  40. rainylakeboy on October 29, 2020 at 1:44 pm

    Get to the point! Get bigger microphones!

  41. El Studio Tango on October 29, 2020 at 1:44 pm

    Here’s something to be mind blown and indicate as to why there’s this odd ban against drone use in National Parks. Lookup ‘Missing 411’ on Youtube and watch some of the episodes. You’ll all be watching many videos on it and eventually after seeing many… you’ll get the sense that something sinister is going on in National Parks that some(one/people/groups) do not want revealed. It seems a lot of people go missing in National Parks.

  42. Chris Madge on October 29, 2020 at 1:47 pm

    Then the NPS should create Drone specific areas, where it is safe to use it, and have signs warning members of the public, that they are entering a Drone Flying area

  43. Lost Treasure on October 29, 2020 at 1:48 pm

    So your saying IF I take off from outside a state park and land outside the park. I’m good?? Drone wise

  44. Kent Harris on October 29, 2020 at 1:49 pm

    I’m within 5 miles of a grass field airport with no control tower (FAA ID X09). How do I get permission to fly a done in the area? I would be using a drone for Real Estate photography and would only be flying a couple of hundred feet in the air. I’m a couple of miles from the approach so I would not be interfering with planes that are landing.

  45. Pianki Pianki on October 29, 2020 at 1:49 pm

    Bring these concerns to the Trump administration. During this interview Obama was in office and I can see the bottlenecks

  46. blastman8888 on October 29, 2020 at 1:54 pm

    Federal employees after 5 years can’t be fired or laid off they have a job for life.

  47. SyntheticOG on October 29, 2020 at 1:54 pm

    So much fluff. (sigh)

  48. Jonneke Grisham on October 29, 2020 at 1:57 pm

    Does taking off and landing outside of the border apply to all national parks?

  49. Greg Ostler on October 29, 2020 at 1:59 pm

    The park you were referring to as "Horse Shoe Bend" is actually in Utah near Moab and is called Dead Horse Point. They still have 2-3 specific months available to drone pilots where you can purchase a permit for $10 to fly your drone in the park. Safe Droning!

  50. Bob Rosso on October 29, 2020 at 2:00 pm

    …and HOW do you get a permit to fly in a national park???

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