Hobby and FPV Model Flying in the UK is DEAD? (THANKS EASA) | Mr MPW

Have the EASA Drone Rules, which the CAA are adopting on 1st July 2020, KILLED Hobby and FPV flying in the UK?

As most people are now hopefully aware, the drone regulations in the UK are changing on the 1st July 2020… But, do the new rules allow hobby and recreational drone and model aircraft pilots to continue enjoying flying or do they totally destroy the opportunities to enjoy this fantastic hobby?

Will FPV even be allowed under the new system? :S

Today’s video has the answers! 🙂

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50 Comments

  1. Robert Amberwich on July 19, 2020 at 8:21 am

    I don’t understand you guys. Why instead of sign petition in this case you just typing it here. Few months ago on facebook there was an action publicly available to signup petition against this regulations especially in relation to the FPV. I gathered just above 2000 people …… where minimum required was 10000 …. where have you been guys ?
    Now is too late, they will apply those rules and if you want fly FPV you will either give them money for nothing or fly illegally ….. sad but true.
    I’m not going to register, will not pay another tax for something what belongs to everyone! AIR!
    There is no owner of the air so why? One day they will ask for the money because we breathing!!!

  2. Frank on July 19, 2020 at 8:21 am

    Other point is something you’ve said in the past; the airspace is congested and big business want to use drones. That means that the freedoms we’ve enjoyed in the past, are going to be a thing of the past. However, there are still lots of opportunities out there for FPV, but I think we’ll see the end of the DIY FPV aircraft being able to fly outdoors unless you’re in that far from people zone.

  3. Adrian Appleyard on July 19, 2020 at 8:27 am

    I race tiny whoops type drones. These are under 250gms but it does have a camera. So does this need my OP registration attached to it ?

  4. JacobiteJake on July 19, 2020 at 8:28 am

    It’s over, drone sales on amazon uk are taking a BIG dive, very sad 🙁

  5. benn rees on July 19, 2020 at 8:33 am

    I hove not seen or heard what will happen to us if we get caught flying in a field Fpv with no spotter? Fine? Jail? House searched and all computers and flying gear taken by police?

  6. andrew maudsley on July 19, 2020 at 8:34 am

    i just read a lot of the comments and can see a lot of fixed wing and FPV people are the most annoyed, some saying nothing has really changed, tell me this if nothing has changed why are so many annoyed, under the new rules i cannot legally let a friend or one of my kids fly one of my FPV drones even if i sit next to them with my finger on the disarm and have the drone setup in betaflight so its is very close and has as many limits as i can put on it, at one time i can legal do this and at most a brake a prop now, its a big no no, so there is a change and its bs

    was also thinking if we are now paying the £9 per year what the hell am i going to get out of it, i want a place i can be allowed to fly FPV and not a empty bit of grass i want something to fly around and over, we are paying all this money but what are we getting out of it, a number wow, this amount is likely going to go up and again what are we going to get out of it, how about also less BS lies in the news would be a nice start 🙂

  7. Bri's FPV on July 19, 2020 at 8:34 am

    CAA … please give me a valid safety/security reason why a drone of 249g or less with camera needs registering but one without a camera doesn’t.. this makes no safety or security sense. Peoples privacy is not a valid reason if you want to know why look at DSLR’s with telephoto lenses yet they require NO registration and can get far better pictures.

  8. Bruce Baker on July 19, 2020 at 8:35 am

    I fly a Q500 4K, and mostly fly around my yard and sometimes the neighborhood, now none of the yards have privacy fences, so when I am sitting on my back porch I can see whatever is going on in everybody else’ yard without a drone…of course, it has a camera, but when I am outside of my own yard, the drone is at least 200 feet high, so can not make out people on the ground with the wide-angle lens. I started using my drone for checking my rain gutters, without dragging out the tall ladder…..I still see my drone as a small plastic toy, not an airplane. I used to have a commercial helicopter license, and flew a real airplane, and had fewer regulations than they have on these toy drones…I could buy an Ultralite aircraft that I can ride in and have fewer rules than they have on these toy drones…Here in the U.S. you don’t even need a pilot’s license to fly an Ultralite, you should take a few lessons first, but it is not required by the FAA..

  9. TailSpin RC on July 19, 2020 at 8:36 am

    All this crap because of one fake news story about a drone at Gatwick.

  10. Amateur Tech on July 19, 2020 at 8:37 am

    What actually counts as a congested/built up area? As in am I able to fly in a public park/field area (with no other people in it)? Thanks

  11. James Smith on July 19, 2020 at 8:38 am

    If people in the UK had held back from signing up to the new regulations in November, when the winter weather means we are not flying anyway, it would have caused massive problems for this £4 million scheme putting huge pressure on it, and by spring it would have been scrapped.

  12. paulkazjack on July 19, 2020 at 8:39 am

    I joined the BMFA yesterday! It cost £38.

  13. Grim Reaper on July 19, 2020 at 8:40 am

    I looked forward to purchasing a drone, I even took and passed the test so now have a flyer ID but having watched the many confrontation videos I have decided to give it a miss. Such a shame

  14. Man Shed Drone Photography on July 19, 2020 at 8:40 am

    Thanks for the vid, it makes more sense when you explain it!

  15. Alwin Peddie on July 19, 2020 at 8:41 am

    I have a mavic air, witch is registered , but i got my mini just to get rid of a lot of the hassle that comes with drones, maybe i missed something, but now iv got to register it because it has a camera ? . seems to me the goal post have been moved again.I know times have changed , I started from .R.C planes/ helicopters, I now own 3 drones and now am spending up to a £1000 on a single toy (AS MY WIFE WOULD SEE IT) but all this is now turning mostly unnecessary to the common man. I still think the sky is for sale.And one way or another, am gonna have to make way for corporations to rule the skies PS MR MPW, GREAT VIDEO !. even if i had a little moan lol

  16. Rich_N_ on July 19, 2020 at 8:42 am

    I really don’t mind with these new rules. As has already been said, I can still fly and I can make money from it.

    But, I do worry about that element of flyers that fly outside of the rules. For example, we all know someone that will refuse to register their device.

    Some people will continue to fly outside of the rules and one day those people WILL cause and accident and they will stop it for us all.

    I plan to do the new course with your company after June, I retire then and would like to make money from my hobby. But I do worry about the future given those buffoons who are willing to ignore the rules.

    Many thanks for these videos. They ARE putting minds at rest while providing required information.

  17. Jamie East on July 19, 2020 at 8:42 am

    Easy money.
    Basically.

  18. Dan frost on July 19, 2020 at 8:43 am

    It’s all about making money. They just found another way to do everyone over.

  19. roger hunt on July 19, 2020 at 8:44 am

    see i told you this would happen ages ago but NO one took me up on it and all the silly people WHo sign up are the 1s doing this to the hobby 80.000ths of you did this to us who love the hobby .so wants next well its going to be ALL the rc cars boats subs , heils copters" the whole lot "so i just want to say THANKS YOU ALL WHO SIGNED UP TO IT. now you have done this lots of jobs will be in your hands as a uk person i hope your happy .. all the shops will not be able to sell any of them >loss of money .stock that will not go> thos in debt > >shops shuting down > and your paying for a computer that cost £4 mill and your paying for it just to see who has a drone sounds very silly BUT HAS ANYONE SEEN THIS £4 MILL COMPUTER ???

  20. Flypic on July 19, 2020 at 8:45 am

    Thanks Matt Jim

  21. Frank on July 19, 2020 at 8:45 am

    Matt, couple of things that came out of the Westminster drone forum late last year that were relevant to FPV and Model flyers: 1. Consideration was being given to different types of airspace and model flying airspace is one of those. 2. The concept of "Drone zones" will be introduced in 2020. 3. Remote ID is coming for all UAV.

  22. Fred Kaz on July 19, 2020 at 8:48 am

    Hi again, sorry to ask a silly question again, but you state the distance from un involved people might be dropped to 50 mtrs. Is this in height only, or in all directions. Reason for this, I fly rc Helicopters and have a few mates who fly rc planes. Where we fly is a football pitch in a public park. This park has public footpaths all around these pitches. A average pitch is 50 meters wide and we land down the middle of the pitch. This would mean that the general public walking around these pitches are closer than 50 meters to the aircraft landing and taking off. How do we stand with this type of scenario.

  23. RC Fred on July 19, 2020 at 8:49 am

    Hi Mat ,what if you are useing your smart phone for fpv on your transmitter do you still need someone by you ,

  24. MarcRCAddict on July 19, 2020 at 8:49 am

    Hello mate, lol man what are they doing to us.. Here’s a question for you, so from July all drones with cameras have to be registered but you have to be 18 to register? Do what about the nano toy quads with cameras on that kids can buy, drones such as the hubsan h107d. So these drones also have to be registered? That’s insane no one will do that, I certainly wouldn’t if it was my only drone, I have bigger drones such as the spark do I’m registered anyway but I’m pretty sure I’m not going to be bothered on putting details on a micro toy quad that weighs under 80g that’s just insane isn’t it.. I definitely feel sorry for kids, this is 100% going to destroy the flying hobby in the uk.

  25. gingermattb on July 19, 2020 at 8:50 am

    @Mr MPW Your views on the Open category A3 seem somewhat naive. They may not be too restrictive for pilots who operate at a private field miles from anywhere, but effectively it will be impossible to operate from a public site meaning clubs that currently operate from parks or other public areas will be stitched up. Even if the CAA give the exemption to allow operation within 50m of uninvolved people how can the pilot guarantee that once they start flying if anyone can wander across the area? This will be the death of (legal) slope soaring and many thermal sites too, forms of flight which are amongst the safest model flying disciplines.

  26. The Shadow Man on July 19, 2020 at 8:51 am

    Let’s talk about drones

    I was flying a radio-controlled aircraft at a RC Club when a commercial airliner flew overhead it wasn’t very high up but this pilot dumped kerosene over a built-up area,
    and kerosene which has been linked with with some cancers including leukaemia.

    I could feel the kerosene striking my face like mist and the stench of kerosene was very profound.

    So commercial aircraft pilots some of which are breaking the law, but they seemingly always get away with it.

    Yet people some of which are children flying a small toy drone aircraft are profoundly punished and put off even flying their toy drone because of the law which is completely unnecessary and highly restricted and discriminatory unjust laws.

    I get the flying rule Line of Sight, and restrictions regarding airports and flying a model above 400 feet they make sense, anything else is designed to severely impact the enjoyment of flying model drones for a hobby.

    And yes Amazon talking about drone deliveries I bet they can and will get away with flying remotely over urban areas with no Line of Sight and no restriction applying to them.

    Yet they even allow autonomous vehicles to travel through congested urban areas and some of which even being involved in accidents and people have been killed by these autonomous vehicles, and they will continue to be killed by these autonomous vehicles……………….
    ………. it just doesn’t make sense because I have not heard of anyone been killed by a drone below 1000 kg in weight.

    But I have heard of …..Thousands of people being killed by military drones ………………..on behalf ……..of……. Governments….. who are inforcing these unjust laws on you the people.

    The double standards are profound in itself and yet even insulting to people who fly drones for a hobby, so I can see a conflict of interest that will at some point in the future will see this uncalled for……………… discriminatory and unnecessary unjust law abolished.

    Having a said that I have seen  supposedly expert drone flyers; flying drones aggressively and dangerous at low altitude risking an impact with anyone that was walking in this area.
    These are the people who should be dealt with locally by the- police – and without infringing upon on other people’s rights to enjoy flying their model drones safely and in a responsible manner.

    These are the people that bring bad reputations to the majority of drone flyers who are flying their drones responsibly and safely and without regulation or the need for licence.

    And now let’s talk about 5G wholly unrelated to flying drones but still none the less disturbing.

    And 5G being introduced which hasn’t been fully tested and it’s safety may likely cause numerous health conditions including cancer and is increased risk of causing childhood leukaemia and and other severe illnesses.

    The other thing you should be concerned about is the fact that it is imported from "COMMUNIST China" and with it a peripheral array of surveillance equipment including autonomous drones by the thousands and they sold it to you saying it’s for your protection and the truth is that they will be used to spy on you and this is coming ….to what is supposedly "free democratic Society" near you…. the people.

    So no wonder they do not want you all flying drones because the sky will be already congested by their Drones, well now that’s a revelation isn’t it, now you know the bloody truth and I bet you are fuming right now.

    Thus proving the abolishment of the Magna Carta was also an abolishment of your freedom, your civil rights,  your human rights, and your hereditary rights, and even your grandfather rights, all have been abolished by people you elected in what is a supposedly free and democratic Society,

    And you all thought we were living in a free democratic system well guess what you best take a long hard critical look at this reality because you don’t and that’s the shocking truth of it, the politicians did not have your best interests at heart now did they, and they never have and they never will.

    I will never vote again because it is completely futile and wholly pointless procedure when all you end up with is just another dictator! Fooling you into believing you are still living democratically.

    If you are not concerned then you should by now.
    Thanks for reading.

    And God bless you all.

  27. Alan Reid on July 19, 2020 at 8:52 am

    Yourself and the CAA watch this from an airline pilot and enthusiastic rc flier…..unfortunately probably too much common sense involved https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQfGx4BbHJk&lc=z22luvf4exjzcx2xu04t1aokgqnpjdrby3bu10ik4m3crk0h00410.1580507384028733&feature=em-comments

  28. Steve Street on July 19, 2020 at 8:53 am

    Hi MrMPW.
    I’d like to see you do a video letting us know your views on this.
    I was listening to BBC Radio 4 Parliament the other night when they aired some snippets from the House Of Lords debate on the ‘Illegal Use Of Drones’. I was quite frankly shocked, not only entirely one-sided, but the completely blinkered, unsubstantiated claptrap these peers were ranting. Almost entirely aimed at recreational.

    We need a voice to stand up to this and put our side forward.

    Have a listen from 19:50 minute mark.

    [https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m000dq31](https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m000dq31)

  29. David Owens on July 19, 2020 at 8:54 am

    To fly at my local BMFA club, to fly FPV quads we have all agreed that remote pilots will need the multi-rotor A CERT and FPV extension. I have both… and make us quad pilots the same as fixed wing and helicopter pilots. It works well. Without the qualification you have to fly with someone who is qualified…

  30. abbo3000 on July 19, 2020 at 8:55 am

    i have unfortunately buckled and paid the 9 pound but i wonder what the actual punishment they could give for flying without a licence ?

  31. Odd Flight on July 19, 2020 at 8:55 am

    Bollocks.

    Not registering to fly a sub 250 drone with a camera on it. Hows it any different than climbing a tall tree and looking around?

    I dont record ever or have a sd card in my goggles so I cant record DVR. It’s a data relay system not a data capture.

  32. Krom1hell on July 19, 2020 at 8:57 am

    Jees, how different things are from one part to the other of the EU :))…..
    Does a trainned sniper with 20/20 vision count as a binocular, or only as binocular vision? :)) If I’m taking him as a spotter can we fly half a mile away? :))…
    I never could understand what line of sight means, as field of view and line of sight are quite different from person to person ( I can put my girlfriend watch the drone and she’d not spot it at 100 meters, while my dad’s looking at it at 500 meters and tells me if it’s front facing or not towards us ).
    Oh, yeah, we have permanent certification with signs showing distinctly on the outside, and a chip for detection and identification :)) (put that on a mini, and it will be over 250g 🙂 ).
    And so on…..

  33. Video Adventures on July 19, 2020 at 8:57 am

    i have empathy for you guys in the comments section, but i think you don’t appreciate the possibilities. Legislation made it able do fly 250g above uninvolved people, now imagine holding a small beer outside a window and loosing grip, that’s dangerous. Nevertheless it will be legal. What legislation asks is that you know what you’re doing and are aware of the risks (operator certificate). Line of Sight means you are not helpless when video transmission brakes, being there gives you much more awareness. Imagine you are on the other side of a building, you suddenly see a person and video transmission is suddenly lost. Then all your awareness is gone too. Heck, you could even omit the visual observer/spotter and make somewhat sure you are aware of the space you are flying in, that’s not much to ask. Because Observers quote may be used to ensure visual line of sight/awareness. All legislation is asking for is that you have some concept of staying in control and preventing harm to others. But you need a concept, you shall not be ignorant to other people around you. You don’t need to implement the rule word by word, you need to what the rules once tried to achieve, which is to be thoughtful of people around you. Alright Cheers, don’t let your beer slip.

  34. Colin-UK on July 19, 2020 at 8:58 am

    My beloved DJI Phantom 3 pro which I bought when it was first released and have had much fun, but now I will feel kind of worried even though I register my drone last November and will follow the CAA rules, I will still feel am doing wrong things, silly I know, but it’s how I feel. The last 4 times I used the police helicopter hovered overhead although I was witching the flight regulations. Looks like the time has come to sell up, let’s hope not, time will tell.

  35. Peter Horner on July 19, 2020 at 9:02 am

    I’m new to this. When you say FPV is this refering to people who wear and view through goggles or does it also include simply using your phone screen as well?

  36. Adam Cook on July 19, 2020 at 9:04 am

    Hi, hoping for some help please. I fly an FPV freestyle quadrocopter as a hobby.

    I just want to check I have all in place to be legal, I’ve got an Operator ID & Flyer ID. Do now need to register with DMARES? and could someone please confirm what paper work I’ll need to carry with me.

    Many thanks

  37. Mark Lewis on July 19, 2020 at 9:05 am

    So I need to stick my Op ID on my tello?

  38. Archiie on July 19, 2020 at 9:05 am

    Been flying 5’’ fpv quads for 8 months, this is the first time I’ve heard of any kind of registration for anything. I’ve just gone out and flown :/

  39. TopCrinkly on July 19, 2020 at 9:05 am

    All I need is 1 answer to 1 question please, Can I go out on MY OWN and fly my drone by myself with my Fatshark goggles,
    Assuming I have registered, Id , not near people,not near crowds, not near buildings,got my number on all my 6 drones??
    Etc ?…paid my £9.00 got ins!! Etc,(the reason is there is no one I know that flys in my village)!,,,

  40. Planoramic Limited on July 19, 2020 at 9:06 am

    So can we use FPV googles to conduct a commercial flight. I ask as it always seemed a grey area. (so long as all other things are done, within LoS, height etc.

  41. Rob Giles on July 19, 2020 at 9:06 am

    Nice bit of info. Thanks alot 👍 glad I dont have to sell all my gear

  42. Jiraiyaplays on July 19, 2020 at 9:07 am

    I fly an Eachine Wizard X220 and have for about 3 years. I registered with the CAA back in November.

    What kind of restrictions are being placed on FPV flyers?

  43. Steve Mann on July 19, 2020 at 9:08 am

    a model jet flyer with 5 grands worth of model in the air is not going to want £150 mini quad buzzing round the same airspace with the risk of bringing his jet down. so they are not going to let you in also you will have to get in the flight queue if you did get in.

  44. 3Egger FPV on July 19, 2020 at 9:10 am

    That’s nothing compared to what the FAA is trying to mandate here in the United States.

  45. Ian Duckworth on July 19, 2020 at 9:10 am

    You videos are getting clearer and clearer in presentation Thank you Matt keep up the good work

  46. Alan Reid on July 19, 2020 at 9:10 am

    Sorry that you have missed the point…but if the FAA do get it and are willing to pay attention and address the points being presented then perhaps the CAA will take notice and revise their rules and regulations ….ie we are no longer in Europe. I am just so miffed as there is no separation in the rules dependent on which type of rc models you fly..fixed wing..heli , quad.or fpv ..if the FAA or CAA aren’t willing to be flexible on this …then it does look like the 400ft airspace is being cleared for the likes of Amazon etc.

  47. Phillip Powell on July 19, 2020 at 9:12 am

    Thanks for the update Matt I am a member of a club that flies in a public park that was once an airfield. To add a different perspective to not allowing helicopters or drones only fixed wing we have several members who fly drones and helis from experience they do not mix well with fixed wing if at all anyone who has had to put up with a heli flyer taking off and flying just out of line of sight while flying a fixed wing and knows the damage that heli can do i’m sure will say all you can do is land and stand back. drones however and I think it is fair to say that most will be flying the pattern more or less like a fixed wing are not so much of a problem also my experience is that if I arrive at the field and there are a lot of heli flyers the chance of a flight is marginal sharing cuts both ways but the majority rules.

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  49. Richard lewis on July 19, 2020 at 9:16 am

    Flown planes years ago, just getting into drones, I registered strait away and hate anything that the BB wants you to do. I think its a good Idea. Eek.

  50. Christopher Buckenham photography on July 19, 2020 at 9:17 am

    Thanks for these videos there really helpful.

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