Drone law podcast 1 | What you need to know

In this podcast we discuss the various drone laws that confuses even the most experienced commercial pilots. Can you fly over private property without permission? What can happen if your caught doing so? Does the FAA own the airspace from the ground up? How does state law come into play? What’s the difference between federal and state law?

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16 Comments

  1. R S on November 26, 2020 at 9:04 pm

    So based on the information about private property owners rights and who controls what air space does that mean that if I’m flying in my backyard over my own property even though I’m within controlled air space (just inside the 5 mile radius of class D airspace) according to the FAA if I fly over my own property as a hobbyist and at an altitude of less than 400 ft AGL does the FAA have the legal right to deny me that privilege??

  2. Your Local Ice Man on November 26, 2020 at 9:09 pm

    Awsome video. All drone and rc flyers should watch this video.

  3. UgpFpv on November 26, 2020 at 9:15 pm

    Very interesting interpretation’s, would like to hear an faa representatives opinion on the subject.
    What I take away from this and as stated in the faa "federal vs local drone authority" it would have to be proven that it was an invasion of privacy when flying over someone’s private property and at what situation a judge would find that limit. ie: if flying over at 30 mph at 150′ would be interpreted as an invasion of privacy. As local authorities can’t regulate aircraft.
    The scary thing is that local governments could, if they wanted, limit the takeoff and landing to only small designated areas… But than again if you tookoff from the top of your car which is your private property… yes lots of grey area…

  4. Edwin Negron on November 26, 2020 at 9:20 pm

    Steel City, did I hear the correctly that a property owner can "take a pot shot" at your drone? Is that not a federal crime if they do? please correct me and or his statement… I see you covered it, got ahead of myself when he said that

  5. wingmanalive on November 26, 2020 at 9:22 pm

    And yet Amazon was just granted permission to use drones for deliveries. I can’t fly my $200 drone over my backyard lake but Amazon was given the green light to send 10’s of 1000’s of large and professional drones that will riddle the sky. Sure it’s a gamble for them with liability and equipment failures and thieves looking to knock these out of the sky, however, it’s a punch in the face to the recreational drone pilot who just wants to get some cool shots from impossible angles. After all that’s what started the drone camera craze in the first place. This angers me because we just purchased a relatively entry level Hubsan H501S for my Father for Father’s day because he’s been interested in the hobby for some time now. All the accessories and extra batts too. Plus it’s what I have and he envies my footage I’ve gotten. Well he did his homework and watched videos like these and has now treated it like the plague. He hasn’t even taken it out of the box. I’ve told him to just use common sense and to keep it under 400′ and in line of sight and he’ll be fine. Nope. He’s convinced someone will report him and he’d go off in handcuffs. I mean you can buy these things in toy stores and they’ve found a way to require licensing and slap so many restrictions on them that many deem the hobby not worth the hassle. One thing is for sure, I’ll be damned if it’s going to stop me. I don’t fly over private property, over crowds or even over public roads because even I know the possibilities of a random bird strike or drone failure and it now becomes a 2lb projectile. I simply keep it low and sometimes over water around a lake, sometimes going straight up for the quick aerial pics. And yet, that makes me a criminal!

  6. Thomas Stordahl-Gregory on November 26, 2020 at 9:25 pm

    I am a hobbiest flyer, wanting to fly a 4.8 oz drone. Not commercial, how does this info apply to me?

  7. Buck E on November 26, 2020 at 9:26 pm

    👏 👏 👏 👏

  8. DAVID GARRISON on November 26, 2020 at 9:32 pm

    That was absolutely helpful. Awesome you guys . Can’t wait to here more , i guess I’ll check out my Connecticut laws before I fly .

  9. Ken Checkeye on November 26, 2020 at 9:32 pm

    I’ve flown model airplanes for probably 15 years and always enjoyed the experience of flying. I also have a phantom 3 that has been quite fun. After hearing this podcast, I think I’m done. Was considering getting part 107, mostly due to my passion of flight. Now after learning I need permission to fly over property – wow. I appreciate your discussion, more than you know. I’ve taken a lot of photos on a volunteer basis for schools and families too, and just listening to this conversation is a wake up call. It may be time to back off from a lot of things. Anyhow, thanks for this amazing conversation.

  10. Thomas Stordahl-Gregory on November 26, 2020 at 9:41 pm

    I have posted the following statement referring back to this blog, on a number of other YouTube Drone sites, and have yet to receive any response. I don’t know if posting as I have, is considered bad form, but I truly desire to sort out these issues, and most do not seem willing to address the issues as you have set out. If I have misstated your observations, please set me straight. I have yet to fly my drone as I desire to be in compliance. Here in Greenwood Village, Colorado, I have understood that even the area outside the Controlled airspace, of a number of airports, and heliports, designated G airspace by the B4UFly app, is in fact restricted for drone flight, they essentially are the CBO. They represent the private land owners in mass. I have also checked with the sheriff’s office, Arapahoe County, and their response was that they enforce the FAA regs, which would also include private property rights according to you. So it does appear that hobbyist flying drones is getting more involved. The local Wal-mart, has now posted a notice that aircraft registration is required, and flights limited by regulation. I expect they are not selling many drones now! And maybe that is not a bad thing! Not that I am opposed to notifying as a good business practice, private property owners if I am going to fly over their property, but you better have all the "i" dotted, and "T" crossed.

    "As of 6/21/2019, still no LAANC, no flying in FAA Controlled Air Space, and In a recent blog by Steel City Drones Flight Academy, they brought in a legal adviser who pointed out that there is tort law regarding flight over private property, which protects the property rights of land owners, up to an altitude of approx 400-500 ft agl. This has led to a real mess of understanding the legal issues, and It seems to me that what the FAA is attempting to do with the recent reorganization, is to separate themselves (wash their hands) from flights below 400 ft in uncontrolled airspace, and by their own admission leaving the enforcement of CBO restrictions up to Local authorities. The FAA requirement to maintain 400 ft, is to establish that they will only enforce the regs of 400 ft to maintain a 100 ft clearance with other aircraft. They are not so much establishing a max altitude, but a minimum altitude of FAA enforcement. The idea that you can take off/land a drone from public right a way, and then fly over private airspace is presented as not being true, unless you get the approval of all those affected land owners. The controlling agency in FAA Airspace, is the FAA, and they are saying you will not get approval to fly there, so don’t even try to call ATC. There really is no motivation to bring hobbyist into the LAANC, since they really don’t want hobbyist in controlled airspace. The controlling agency in the FAA non-controlled airspace, is the private land owner since you will have to fly below the 400 ft. cap, so good luck there. The knowledge test, will establish that you are informed and now subject to FAA and LEO enforcement.. In other words, all air space, is not federally regulated, as some are assuming, but all air space is regulated by someone. What say you"

  11. All Things Skydio on November 26, 2020 at 9:41 pm

    Very informative video. Thanks!!
    I had problems with a neighbor. And had to be resolved with local police. Police initially sided with the home owner. But later after a meeting with management they agreed that the laws are complicated. There answer was just to avoid the neighbors property. My altitude was 375 feet when I flew. So I have a question about drone delivery from future companies. Amazon… I read where they want the 200-400 flight altitude for deliveries. Now wouldn’t this violate the 500 feet (roughly). I can see many lawsuits in the future. Plus I think the FAA will limit recreational pilots a 100 – 200 foot maximum altitude because of delivery companies.

  12. mic pic on November 26, 2020 at 9:44 pm

    Great job! This is the best video I’ve seen recently regarding drone laws which sorry to say have become a legal morass. How do the half million pound commercial airliners on
    approach to the international airport at 800 feet over my house fit into this perceived encroachment? (rhetorical) You do have great advice about getting permissions beforehand. I am in Texas which I’ve heard have the toughest drone laws in the nation. It’s not those laws so much, but city, county, national parks, state parks, state forests etc. I find the biggest challenge is to find out what all the rules are and where to find them, and how to understand them before I even take off. BTW I just want to do a commercial for using propeller guards. Not just to prevent possible severe injuries, but they have saved my drones multiple times. I can’t recall seeing them used by almost every drone I’ve seen except mine. They won’t get in your shots if you don’t want them to. Keep up the great work !

  13. GunnY SnAfU GrUnT on November 26, 2020 at 9:45 pm

    Shooting into the air is considered CELEBRATION SHOOTING it’s illegal to discharge a projectile into the air from a firearm.WHAT GOES UP MUST COME DOWN.

  14. Kevin Henderson on November 26, 2020 at 9:46 pm

    at 14:00 it’s not "trespass" it’s overflight wish specific intention of harassment.

  15. MrJc11419 on November 26, 2020 at 9:55 pm

    Come on people…. FAA has said many times that they own the airspace from ground up. I personally don’t see an issue if someone is flying over my property at over 200 feet as long as it’s not hovering. Also, if we own the space say up to 500 feet, then why do we need to be registered and comply with the new FAA UAV regs? Why can’t we just fly freely?

  16. APEX SECURITY SYSTEMS inc on November 26, 2020 at 9:56 pm

    Great episode. Question you mention an app on your phone at 19:15 that you would have people sign (a wavier) can you send the name or link to that app and which platform ios or android it works on, please. Thank you for the content.

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