Can You Fly your Drone from Beaches & Recreational Areas? CAA Guidance

Can You Fly your Drone from Beaches & Recreational Areas? CAA Guidance

#DJI #DroneRulesUK The new EASA rules list Beaches and Parks as examples of congested
recreational areas where you cannot fly. But it’s not straight forward
and there are times when you can fly your drone from the beach or in a
park, even if you do not have any additional permissions like the A2
CofC or Article 16.
So with some additional clarification from the CAA that confirms when
you can and can’t fly from these areas.

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50 Comments

  1. Fortniteandfifagamer56 on June 28, 2022 at 7:28 pm

    Thank you for informative videos on Drone mate well done and keep up the good work

  2. manvsmap on June 28, 2022 at 7:30 pm

    Thank god for that! I’m about to clock up the 4 required flight hours for the CoFC with Coptrz and literally everywhere is considered a recreational area outside of private land, commercial, industrial etc in the UK. Was thinking I’d have to drive up to the Shetland Islands to fly! Thanks for clarifying.

  3. Ian in London on June 28, 2022 at 7:30 pm

    Finally some clear guidance on beaches and recreational areas if you’re not flying under A2 CofC or Article 16 Permissions.
    Hopefully this will help you on deciding where to fly. Cheers, Ian

  4. waddac2 on June 28, 2022 at 7:31 pm

    Brilliant video Ian on clarification of theses flights. I bet many drone pilots were were so scared to fly under restrictions. Thanks again buddy.

  5. Mark Barnes on June 28, 2022 at 7:34 pm

    In Australia we call this the ‘Populous’ Rule – “An area is a populous area in relation to the operation of an unmanned aircraft or rocket if the area has a sufficient density of population for some aspect of the operation, or some event that might happen during the operation (in particular, a fault in, or failure of, the aircraft or rocket) to pose an unreasonable risk to the life, safety or property of somebody who is in the area but is not connected with the operation”.

  6. William Bell on June 28, 2022 at 7:34 pm

    Hello Ian , First can I say how much I enjoy your videos . My question is , can I fly the dji mini in the lake district . I live in Cumbria so Im not far off places like Ullswater and other lakes . Best regards Bill . P.S. , I did read about someone being fined for flying a drone in the National park as they call it now . I wonder what that was all about as I only glanced the head line .

  7. john garner on June 28, 2022 at 7:35 pm

    Hi Ian I admire your clear and concise down to earth videos. I have watched many of your videos, both recently and from upto 3 years ago. I have a question. I have been flying many drones over the last 2 years and i consider a flight of 2 – 3.5 miles the norm. I hold a CAA operater and flyer id and was considering the A2 CofC course. The problem is that virtually every flight i have would be considered illegal due to the VLOS rules which lets be honest here even when your drone is 300 mtrs away, if you glance down at your screen and look up again you just can’t see your drone. Ok the question is this: Do i gain the A2 CofC or just not bother, my main drones are the Mavic pro and X8 SE 2020.

  8. RiverCoast on June 28, 2022 at 7:37 pm

    Thanks for clarifying the CAA guidance which is on the face of misleading on this point. The issue with beaches was particularly concerning to me because I will be using my drone mostly on the coast. My understanding is that the Crown own the foreshore, namely, the area below the high water mark, although I don’t think that that has much relevance to where you can fly drones on the coast unless maybe being below the high water mark exempts you from any bylaws or regulations which the local authority may have imposed on a beach that they own and manage (not sure on that though). More of an issue would be being in a military zone, since you get a lot of them on the coast down by us and they are presumably no go areas for drones.

  9. Mark Stepney on June 28, 2022 at 7:38 pm

    Thank you. Great video.

  10. Mark Bishop on June 28, 2022 at 7:43 pm

    Always good solid info thanks Ian 🙏

  11. Fun with Models on June 28, 2022 at 7:44 pm

    This landscape is amazing.!!!

  12. Alistair Barclay on June 28, 2022 at 7:44 pm

    Hmm, what about Two’s company, three’s a crowd.?

  13. marcel-nine-one-one on June 28, 2022 at 7:46 pm

    I would not interpret the CAA response to your email as saying you are allowed to fly on beaches. It does not say that. All it says is a beach is an example of where crowds are likely. A park is also an example. A park is a recreational space. Recreational spaces are to be kept away from. According to your interpretation, you can fly in a park if there are no crowds. But that would be the same as for a sub 250g drone.

  14. John Quigley on June 28, 2022 at 7:46 pm

    Great piece of clarification thanks Ian – much appreciated – I still have a red flag in my head though – the regulations stipulate: ‘No flights within 150m horizontally of residential, commercial, industrial or
    recreational areas….’ so presumably there’s a bit of a grey area – although you communication refers to people/crowds etc the regs seem to have a ‘get out clause’ generalising with the operating area and not people – or have I missed something?

  15. piequals3.14 on June 28, 2022 at 7:48 pm

    During the week there i viewed a live channel of the snow storm in NYC anyway there was a guy with his mini 2 in union Square Park hoovering his drone about 8 feet off the ground flying over crowds of people back and forth, there’s just going to be an explosion of dumb idiots owning these drones that will inevitably change the future of owning and operating them

  16. Guy Pool on June 28, 2022 at 7:48 pm

    Ian I think you give me the clearest information I think possible; it is very easy to understand. I have a Mavic Mini, and your videos have helped me decide not to bother upgrading to anything bigger. I have been very impressed by the quality of its output. I just wish it could fly in stronger winds and have better stability with the signal transmission.

  17. mark fisher on June 28, 2022 at 7:51 pm

    Great vids pal.I think if you look into the rules too deep nobody would buy a drone.Basically read the rules and keep everyone safe .Cheers Ian

  18. Armando Ferreira on June 28, 2022 at 7:51 pm

    Buy a Mini and fly in A1 subcategory. Problem solved……….LOL
    Cheers mate.

  19. Franky 14 on June 28, 2022 at 7:51 pm

    Very Useful – thanks

  20. Grumble Woof on June 28, 2022 at 7:55 pm

    Thanks to Ian for his informative videos, I think I have watched them all. He is a hero in trying to understand the myriad of drone rules and trying to convey the meaning to us in simple language. It does however beg the question why the rules are not already in simple language. Many areas in UK including beaches, councils parks and private estates continue to have blanket drone bans on their websites and have not been updated with sub 250g drones and the new EASA derived CAA rules from 1st January 2021. They typically cite safety of visitors, protection of wildlife etc… as the reason for banning all drones. Much is made of the freedoms that come with sub 250g drones like the Mini 2 and the rights you have to fly based on where you take off from etc… but there is still a great deal of ambiguity and confusion out there. Perhaps I am saying that too much is open to interpretation, e.g. my small group on an otherwise deserted beach is another’s crowd. Also the maps and info are not precise enough to be useful guides. Often different sources (maps and websites) don’t match and I dread having to try to explain to some authority all the maps, drone rules, CAA regulations, Operator and Flyer ID’s, GDPR, NFZ, VLOS, flyer club memberships and insurance, Sub 250g and Article 16 … my only hope is that they get bored, go away, fall asleep or their heads explode.

  21. Lammy B Drone on June 28, 2022 at 7:55 pm

    Ian, but what about if you fly with drone under 250g? Could you give some clarification on this please

  22. Travels with Rosie on June 28, 2022 at 7:57 pm

    Thanks @Ian in London, Rosie doent plan on putting on any weight over 250g 🙂 but its great to know.

  23. Airtech Images on June 28, 2022 at 7:58 pm

    excellent video thanks Ian, very clear, look forward to more 👍🏻

  24. Paul Houghton on June 28, 2022 at 7:58 pm

    Are any drones classified yet can’t see mention of it on DJI website . If an in classified drone will be restricted would it be better waiting

  25. Jim Rodrigues on June 28, 2022 at 8:03 pm

    Hi Ian do I need to register DJI Mini 2 to use for videography in the United Kingdom

  26. Reaper Nine nine on June 28, 2022 at 8:03 pm

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  27. chaza on June 28, 2022 at 8:04 pm

    Ian! I live in the UK 🙂 did my first ever flyer id today and i got 36/40 did not revise just from watching your videos purely for fun helped me pass!!! Thank you keep making great content 🙂

  28. Pete Horner on June 28, 2022 at 8:05 pm

    Really appreciate these videos Ian but i still find the interpretation of the regulations uncomfortable. The response from the CAA basically says you can’t fly in a recreational area where theres ‘likely’ to be a crowd. It doesn’t state you can fly in these spaces as long as there isn’t one. I just have this ill feeling of flying at the local park on a Sunday morning when the park is empty and having an enforcement officer charging me on account that whilst it’s there’s no crowd right now it’s likely there could be one later after I’ve departed so I am therefore flying illegally.

    I’m not suggesting they could charge me for when I’m not actually flying but I fear the rule is open to be interpreted that you cant fly on this empty park because its likely it will be crowded at some point. You can only fly somewhere where a crowd is never likely to be expected.

    I hope that make sense

  29. john godfrey on June 28, 2022 at 8:05 pm

    very good ian john

  30. Len Stenner on June 28, 2022 at 8:05 pm

    Thanks Ian, useful video. One thing I would bring to everyone’s attention following your statement that most beaches belong to Crown Estate is that, while this may be factually correct, Crown Estate only owns around 55% of the coastline and much of what they do own is inaccessible. There is a large number of beaches that are owned by local councils etc. I would strongly advise that everyone check the Crown Estate coastal map before flying from beaches. It would be most unwise to assume that you can fly from a beach.

  31. Kenny Vandango on June 28, 2022 at 8:05 pm

    Good ideas to have update info on videos like this so long as they are kept up to date. Do you delete old info videos like this when they become obsolete so we have no chance of picking up on outdated rules and regulations? Kind regards.

  32. Tony Collins on June 28, 2022 at 8:06 pm

    Thank you, really well explained 👍

  33. Chris P on June 28, 2022 at 8:08 pm

    Like the sun dispersing the clouds, you are slowly making a very grey area a whole lot clearer, cheers bud, keep it up 👍

  34. ziggyjinx on June 28, 2022 at 8:09 pm

    Best drone information channel I’ve come across…. keep up the great content and thank you

  35. David Ellis on June 28, 2022 at 8:11 pm

    What about flying high along the sea wall of Blackpool’s golden mile some days it’s deserted, I know you can’t fly over the pleasure beach which is a know fly zone . Ps didn’t you lose a Mavic once.

  36. JC FLYING on June 28, 2022 at 8:11 pm

    Really great information Ian. thank you. I’m a subscriber and catch all of your videos and learn something each time. Keep up the good work mate

  37. Illuminationsfromtheattic on June 28, 2022 at 8:12 pm

    Sounds like CAA rules are just as vague and confusing as FAA rules here in the states! Love the coastal footage with the castle there at the end.

  38. Daniel Ridley on June 28, 2022 at 8:14 pm

    So if recreational, industrial etc areas are only mentioned as examples of areas that are likely to be congested, does this mean that we can fly anywhere where’s there’s no large crowds (assuming no bye laws etc) so long as we are 50m away from people? Presumably it means we can fly in uncrowded docks, sports facilities, schools, business parks or anywhere else, provided that are not crowded

  39. Marcin Michalak on June 28, 2022 at 8:15 pm

    Why do they do these new rules now? Authorities can barely check up on if people are forced to self-isolate. This is the worst time to bring new rules out. I say it’s a free for all till the next year and to fly as you did as there is no chance of getting into trouble. It bullshit and it will take at lest 5 years until there will be some kind of warden

  40. MOCKINGBIRD MEDIA on June 28, 2022 at 8:16 pm

    As usual ian top info ! needed some clarification on beach take offs. Where the land is owned by the crown estate also another issue is the spot i want to film at has a SSSI that borders the beach ! have you got any guidance on sites of special scientific intrest. Thanks again ian for any forthecoming info.

  41. Davy Bloggs on June 28, 2022 at 8:16 pm

    Hi Ian, gr8 vids as usual – you’re my go-to for drone info. At 3:30 you say you’re doing a vid about if you’re a member of the BMFA and/or the FPV UK ‘clubs’. I am, but I can’t find your vids on that subject, even though you said you’d be doing it/them in a few weeks, almost a year ago now. Any news m8?

  42. medrian on June 28, 2022 at 8:19 pm

    Thanks Ian, I have recently purchased a drone and have found your channel a huge help both with flying and the rules and regulations involved with flying a drone.

  43. Mark Stepney on June 28, 2022 at 8:21 pm

    HI. Do you have any videos on rules surrounding FPV flight? Thanks

  44. james bean on June 28, 2022 at 8:23 pm

    Thank you for the very informative video. I know this came out quite a while ago, but has anyone had any issues flying on beaches and recreational areas with an A3 class drone?

  45. 69hairyman on June 28, 2022 at 8:23 pm

    Hi Ian, only just seen this video. Does this include all drones? Ie I’ve got a mini 2 and air2s …can I fly both at the beach or park…but depending on crowds obviously..

  46. Life is too short on June 28, 2022 at 8:24 pm

    Thanks for the update 👍

  47. Barry on June 28, 2022 at 8:24 pm

    I have a question, what about flying over places that would usually be considered crowed, but during the lockdown are closed and within a reasonable distance to be allowed to walk to as part of my daily exercise? (think football stadiums etc). I will add the location I am considering is in the red London ctr zone according to the drone assist, with an advisory to only fly within the limits for drone use, but does not exclude flying there. Thoughts? (mavic mini in case it makes a difference)

  48. Marcin Michalak on June 28, 2022 at 8:25 pm

    Who can escape a falling drone unless someone pompously flies into you? The chance of getting hit by a drone is the same as lighting

  49. Food Lover on June 28, 2022 at 8:26 pm

    What about the mini 2? Its under 250 grams. Will that be fine?

  50. Bionic Rusty on June 28, 2022 at 8:28 pm

    You’re doing us a real service here. Thank you.
    However, will they reword this now as it clearly says “used for” therefore any police officer who is called and reads the rules then he or she would be well within their rights to arrest you?
    I mean it’s clear, right? “Used for”
    I live on a beautiful piece of the North Wales coast and love to fly with my beloved Spark but it’s permanently grounded now even though I got my flier id as soon as it was launched and have renewed it.
    The CAA have pretty much got what they wanted now in my eyes. The sales of hobby drones will fall off a cliff now and only the professional fliers will remain.
    This isn’t good for anyone because , as I see it, the cost of the pro gear will sky rocket as the hobby sales die off.
    Thank you for posting 🙏

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