95% of Commercial Drone Pilots didn't… Really?!!

95% of Commercial Drone Pilots didn't… Really?!!

#DfT published their response to last years #drone consultation & New drone laws. For me the biggest shocker has to be how few #commercial operators took part.. have the DfT got the figures wrong, or is the UK Drone industry really that complacent?
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  1. Andrew Harrison on August 12, 2021 at 9:25 pm

    Everything is sensible in this questionable is registration as people who do illegal things hardly follow the law ie wouldn’t get illegal firearms registered by people to use in crime . All I can see with the police thing is a way of money making for govt . Where’s fine money going just like the speed camera cash machines . No one Canada or USA have an idiotic approach like that with someone’s opinion “reasonable suspicion “ to determine how you flying. You get £100 fine for speeding in a 2 ton car that’s polluting the hell out air and somewhat more dangerous than flying quad

  2. Gordon Melrose on August 12, 2021 at 9:26 pm

    Great video Dylan. Pleased to say I’m one of the 265. Interested to see what will come out of this.

  3. Wayne GoldPig on August 12, 2021 at 9:28 pm

    Most PFCO’s want hobbyists to disappear because they wish to remain an exclusive clique. Talented hobbyists reveal how easy it is to be a cinematic drone god. And the PFCO’s don’t like that.

  4. Paul Rendell on August 12, 2021 at 9:28 pm

    I am one of those who did respond. Did you know that 80% of people that obtain a PFCO don’t renew it after their first year? However, I could tell by that consultation document, that they had already made up their minds. They were just playing lip-service to drone flyers, PFCO and hobbyists. I suspect that most people that did respond, let rip at the end and gave a big 2 fingers to their consultation document. Isn’t that why we got Gatwick? To bring the general public on-side to condemn drones. How come the UK is the only country in the world to close an airport because of an alleged drone incursion? You’d think it would be happening all over the world, given the proliferation of drones.

  5. Aerial Image on August 12, 2021 at 9:28 pm

    Looks like they just could’nt be arsed ! – they’ve paid their money they can fly – end of…they probably don’t care, but I do/did reply !! . Sorry for the ‘A’ word 🙂

  6. Jibba Jabba on August 12, 2021 at 9:29 pm

    They probably didn’t respond because they thought the new rules wouldn’t apply to them, more fool them….

  7. David Hunter on August 12, 2021 at 9:31 pm

    I’m just an hobbyists Dylan But completed the form! 👍

  8. Graeme C on August 12, 2021 at 9:31 pm

    Excellent video as usual. Wait for the get rich schemes to appear

  9. brian forward on August 12, 2021 at 9:33 pm

    Perhaps the pro pilots were either
    A filling In there tax return
    B couldn’t be bothered
    C in the shed counting out all that lovely money they’ve earned
    You decide
    Have a great one
    Mr B

  10. paulypyro on August 12, 2021 at 9:33 pm

    265 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Ffs

  11. Centroid on August 12, 2021 at 9:34 pm

    Thank for your response to my comment to your original posted version. Much appreciated, this channel must keep you very busy. If this 5.4% is accurate, then it’s our "own" complacency that will be our undoing. Fight the good fight, mate. I know I will, here across the "pond". Thanks again for putting actual relevant and good content on YouTube.
    Best wishes for the future.

  12. SC Aerials - Steve Carpenter on August 12, 2021 at 9:34 pm

    Good information Dylan, thanks for all the updates. I CAN’T believe there were ONLY 265 commercial drone pilots to fill out the survey, this is a sad day for your commercial drone pilot community. Again, wishing you all the best with the upcoming regulations in the UK. Take Care!

  13. J3 Kroniclez on August 12, 2021 at 9:34 pm

    I love the content man! Very informative. You remind me of a mixture of Jason Statham and Randy Couture👊👊

  14. RODPIKER DRONES UK on August 12, 2021 at 9:40 pm

    Great video and information Dylan maybe The commercial drone pilots are not worried as much where as the recreational flyers are worried about the hobby. Love your channel straight to the point 👍👍🇬🇧

  15. PD Tech on August 12, 2021 at 9:40 pm

    I made my voice heard by taking the time to fill out the consultation as a recreational drone pilot, as I believe it’s important to have your say! I must admit it was a complete chore and much of the consultation sermed to lean towards commercial drone piloting, there were pages and pages of things that didn’t apply to me, eg none of my drones are anywhere near 20kg!! etc
    So I can understand why people didn’t bother!
    But only 265 commercial drone pilots replied that’s a complete shock!
    Surely if you are a commercial pilot you have a vested interest in the future legislation of your business?
    The truth is many probably didn’t even know about it? I know a wedding photographer who is a PfCO holder, occassionally uses a drone in his work but knows very little about drones, it’s just another tool, a flying camera for aerial shots to him, he didn’t know anything about the consultation as it wasn’t widely publicised, I only found out about it through my drone connections on youtube! 🤔😜

  16. Gavin on August 12, 2021 at 9:42 pm

    I was going to purchase liability drone insurance, but before I did I rang my household insurer only to find out my policy covers me and my drone up to 5 million CH so I might be worth a call to save your self some cash.

  17. Kyle Fpv on August 12, 2021 at 9:42 pm

    Nanny state here we come…stop me flying my self build drone…..No chance!

  18. All About Drones on August 12, 2021 at 9:43 pm

    I posted this survey in the fb groups and it’s shocking how few filled in the consultation

    Very sad

  19. NicholasEJones on August 12, 2021 at 9:45 pm

    I cared I have PFCO, and participated, thank you and Good Evening

  20. Jerry Jones on August 12, 2021 at 9:47 pm

    Never hurts to remind the Commercial Folks of what being silent can mean. On a side note I just uploaded a short video on my site from last Spring re: a crash. Feel free to use it as a teaching point if you have any need. Kind of a "Hey, Dummy moment"

  21. Tahir Khan on August 12, 2021 at 9:50 pm

    its like they dont care about their livelihood

  22. Fancy a Bev Mate? on August 12, 2021 at 9:50 pm

    It’s a bit like the EU referendum when the professional pilot’s start to complain about things taken out of their hands and start complaining maybe they will think DAMN I should have filled out the form….. DOH! 😉 like Frank used to say "some mothers do have em!"

  23. cooldata2000 on August 12, 2021 at 9:50 pm

    I’m one in 265, ;;;

  24. Geoff Moore on August 12, 2021 at 9:51 pm

    Hey dylan, may i have your thoughts on the following…
    Existing Code of Practice – Stay well away from aircraft, airports
    and airfields. It is against the law to fly your drone within 1km of an airport or airfield
    Source: https://dronesafe.uk/drone-code/

    With regards the extension of the exclusion zone around airports, I suspect this will have a big effect to more rural drone users as the proposed extension of up to 5km will also apply to Airfields and grass airstrips! the CAA is unlikely to deem a significant difference between major commercial Airports and Grass Airstrips & Air Fields when it comes to the application of drone restrictions.

    The bigger concern I have is many folks are unaware that there are grass airstrips littered about the country, and are likely to fall foul of the changing regulations by ignorance alone, in addition to this many of these airfields only operate on an ad-hoc basis, yet the rules will be and can be enforced 24/7 – 365 – my point is, the new regulations are understandably needed, but in my opinion lack a scaled distance approach on an airport by airport basis, as flight frequency, airport size and location have not been considered. Its a one size fits all approach.

  25. Graham Dawes on August 12, 2021 at 9:51 pm

    I asked about insurance , 1 cannot have it as I am not commercially registered 2 cannot afford it as it is more than the cost of my light aircraft to insure anyway. 3 too restrictive anyway.

    Does any one want a phantom 4 and goggles? I cannot use mine as to much bad feeling and complaints from the odd members of the public that say I am illegal but know nothing.

  26. Jeremy Murfitt on August 12, 2021 at 9:52 pm

    Like others I am disappointed that so many PfCO holders failed to submit a response. Also as others have said maybe they number of active flyers is a lot less than people think. You asked about flying close to airfields. I have undertaken a job close to East Midlands recently. When I say close I mean right on the edge of the 1km exclusion area. Interestingly the areas shown on the NATS Drone Assist App aren’t accurate. I have all the detailed OS maps for the area I was flying so I plotted the 1km area and the difference was about 80m. The exclusion area was therefore 1080m, luckily not 920m. I sent my map to ATC and they were happy with the proposed flight. Note that I was north of the centre line and nowhere near the runway centre line. ATC were very helpful.

  27. pipnmaz on August 12, 2021 at 9:52 pm

    I did go and fill in the on line form as a recreational dronist. I’m not sure how much influence the answers on the form will have on any decision on future regulation of the hobby but put my information forward. I have to admit being concerned about buying more drones, already owning 4 which would be over the 250g compulsory registration threshold. If the plan is to pay a registration fee per drone once the new regulation comes in then I can see trimming the fleet is in order not adding more at will.
    Well done on the info and video content and keep it up please young man.

  28. Kim - Discovering History on August 12, 2021 at 9:55 pm

    Only 265 of us responded to the consultation? What..! I sat down and filled in and answered all those questions, suggestions and bits and bobs in the thought that plenty of us PfCO pilots would equally do the same.. How wrong was I…! Doesn’t anybody care about this consultation and the impact this could have. Gutted big time…! Feel let down..

  29. John Waters on August 12, 2021 at 9:56 pm

    In Shetland there is a lot of low level flying, helicopters etc, and there is a local system of notifying ATC, coastguards etc. Simple! Everyone happy! One email. Note that drone accidents now feature in AAIB aircraft accident reports – regardless of whether other aircraft are involved.

  30. Magnus Persson on August 12, 2021 at 9:57 pm

    I understand registration and why the discussion about it. However it seems UK has come some way now for implement a system for this. In Sweden it´s just a mess! Trying hard to find somewhere to registrate my drone and where to apply for a commercial drone filming certificate but to no avail. It´s a jungle out there! Come to think of all the bad press from airport flying in the UK lately. I live near the coast and there are large oil refinaries along the coast. These areas are protected (NPOs) and literary impossible to film with drones because of jammers that interrupt certain frequences. Why isn´t that implemented with all the airports?

  31. Dave Kelly on August 12, 2021 at 9:58 pm

    Personally, it doesn’t matter if we did or didn’t. Those idiots in power don’t give a shit what we think.. They will do what the hell they want, you or I ticking boxes will not change it..

  32. Dave Jones on August 12, 2021 at 10:03 pm

    Good re-hash Dylan…. Kind off underlines the Us & Them scenario don’t you think ? A lot of PfCO holders somehow think they are better than competent Hobby Flyers, did they forget their roots along the way ? As the regulations evolve over time, the gap between PfCO holders and Hobby fliers will diminish…. we are ALL affected by the same regulations, 5 times the amount of Hobbiests over PfCO were bothered, clearly the latter were not….sad…. 🙁

  33. Steve Gee on August 12, 2021 at 10:04 pm

    As a PFCO holder I can put my hands up and admit I did not respond as a individual. However I did respond as a pilot for the organisation I work for. Shocking response from PFCO’s I wish now that I also had responded as a PFCO. 🙁

  34. CHRISSO FPV on August 12, 2021 at 10:05 pm

    Cheesed off right now!GOSPORT COUNCIL JUST TOLD ME THEY PLAN A BAN,…"Due to recent events"..I sent them back a reply debating their "banning of drones" decision ..based on media’s lack of proof,and 2 scenarios.
    Lets see if they reply..😉🐅

  35. Tim Wayne on August 12, 2021 at 10:05 pm

    It’s Deja-Vue Dylan  😀

  36. Dave Bowman on August 12, 2021 at 10:07 pm

    Quite baffling that so few PfCo’s responded. As a PfCo I felt it would have been remiss of me not to. The link was also widely shared around the respective PfCo Facebook groups, so no excuse really. I regularly fly around Aberdeen and within their ATC boundary. A quick phone call to them in advance to check there are no issues and then another call just to let them know when I’m done. That’s all that’s required.

  37. Paul Joy on August 12, 2021 at 10:08 pm

    I’m one of the 265 that did respond. I wonder how many of the 4913 are really that active. There are so many people that get their PfCO and then let it expire after 12 months it’s scary. I saw one report that there were almost 2,500 PfCO’s awarded in the in the last 12 months yet the active figure barely changed from the previous year. Considering the number of NQE’s selling courses I quite believe that. I wouldn’t be at all surprised if there’s more money turning over in the training of this industry than in actual work being generated.

  38. Graham Waters on August 12, 2021 at 10:09 pm

    Well done. I answered the call, but it was because of you. You do a good job of keeping us well informed. We have the day job to consider so again to take the time from your own commercial job to do these clips is a labour of love. Although what has been happening recently(or has it?) then all of this will be put to the politicians. And we all know what can happen with that lot. All the best. Keep up the good work.

  39. peter hughes on August 12, 2021 at 10:11 pm

    Hi Dylan, thought I had deja vu for a moment! Fridays version certainly provoked comment. Looking forward to seeing #mail on Wednesday. Take care and catch you later. Peter.

  40. Anthony Walker on August 12, 2021 at 10:11 pm

    Another good one 🙂

  41. Adam Shaw on August 12, 2021 at 10:11 pm

    I did my bit…..and I always fly to the code…..and I log flights with the drone safe app……and contact ATC if I’m in a class D airspace……..am I the only one???

  42. Tony Wardill on August 12, 2021 at 10:13 pm

    Great informative video,
    A real indictment against PfCO holders and very disappointing Maybe recreational flyers are not as uncaring as frequently portrayed.
    Admittedly I only filled the consultation cos you gave us a kick up the backside before closing date 🙂 so thanks for that. 🙄

  43. Adam Buckley on August 12, 2021 at 10:13 pm

    I filled mine in – I took my PfCO last year but have yet to apply to the CAA – I can’t actually see the point right now given the proliferation of PfCO operators and the generally poor perception of drones so I’m holding off until the dust settles. There’s a drone operator in my area offering aerial services from £99 so I’ll stick to my day job! I can’t see the situation improving unless the CAA start going after pseudo-recreational operators.

  44. Ikopta on August 12, 2021 at 10:15 pm

    Todays Upload is a re-edit from Friday.. A content test… just incase you’re paying attention..😘

  45. Phantom and the Drone on August 12, 2021 at 10:19 pm

    I don’t think you made it clear enough for your PFCO colleagues! Did you see Don Joyce’s vid on the Canadian new legislation? It comes with a two tier online assessment…1 for Hobbiest and another for advanced flyers, they need completing with the registration . Worth a look, especially as we all do the same thing…pilot UAV’s.😳

  46. Braincoral on August 12, 2021 at 10:19 pm

    Do you think they are lining up to ban recreational drones, Dylan? My DJI drone won’t fly high anywhere near an airport. Sure, I can hack it, but it’s not easy – your every day dronist wouldn’t figure it out, and with the new DJI controllers coming out, they will surely be un-hackable. Education and baked-in restrictions are the answer, no?

    Anyway, what drone can fly all day around an airport and not be seen/stopped? I’m not buying it, personally

  47. David Dewis on August 12, 2021 at 10:20 pm

    I took the questionnaire. Got a strong feeling the questions were very leading and that they’d already made up their minds. The Gatwick and Heathrow Drone News is only going to reinforce their views.

  48. Ray Keogh on August 12, 2021 at 10:20 pm

    Although your video was very interesting but obviously going to happen the thing that struck me most was “ the government don’t seem to be bothered if model plane aircraft with FPV can go over 400/1000ft “ and don’t know WHY ? If they make a rule like that they should explain themselves. Do they think a model aircraft going through a 747 engine will do no damage or have no effect ? NEED to Know WHY GGGRRR.

  49. John Doyle on August 12, 2021 at 10:22 pm

    Not guilty. I only fly as a hobby, but I did respond. The PFCOs had their chance just over 1 in 20 bothered, I am surprised, a missed opportunity.

  50. Optical Flow Drones on August 12, 2021 at 10:24 pm

    FYI My council responded to an email I sent regarding flying within their parks and this is the response . So in their view it’s easier to just say NO

    Flying Drones in not allowed under any circumstance within our parks or public spaces, only with special requested permission and the appropriate license will any drone use be considered within Hertsmere Borough Council.

    If you wish to know the county’s standpoint I would contact them directly and check with your local constabulary about the laws that must be abided by in the area you wish to fly in, this should only be considered if appropriate licenses have been attained and consent of the land owner is given, otherwise you may find yourself breaking the law and facing the penalties of doing so.

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